Air Jordan 11 Retro- Black/Red “Playoff”- 12/14/2019

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What would you think this next release would lack?
In my view, it's not about what it lacks or doesn't lack per se, but surpassing the 2001. Now don't get me wrong, I love the 2016-Present XI mids, but they're not perfect, just as the 2001 was not perfect.

We know the 2019 will have the white rand on the patent, but the red still appears too dark in my eyes. Additionally, the OVERALL shape of the new XI just looks off. Patent a touch too high, toe box a touch too round, etc. The overall shape of the 2001 is better in my view, also the quality of the patent was better.

I wouldn't argue with anyone that prefers the 2019 to the 2001, but the notion that it's not even close is silly to me.
 
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In my view, it's not about what it lacks or doesn't lack per se, but surpassing the 2001. Now don't get me wrong, I love the 2016-Present XI mids, but they're not perfect, just as the 2001 was not perfect.

We know the 2019 will have the white rand on the patent, but the red still appears too dark in my eyes. Additionally, the OVERALL shape of the new XI just looks off. Patent a touch too high, toe box a touch too round, etc. The overall shape of the 2001 is better in my view, also the quality of the patent was better.

I wouldn't argue with anyone that prefers the 2019 to the 2001, but the notion that it's not even close is silly to me.
Thats fair.
 
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So much has changed in the sneaker world since these last released. This was the end of the year must have for most. Now i see kids wearing air forces like they are chuck taylors lol. I remember in 2002 when they told me it looked like i was wearing hospital shoes. Then nellys song came out and everyone was all of a sudden understanding of the trend LOL. ANYWAYS. crazy how all the collabs and yeezys have lessend the punch of this classic to most.
 

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No question these will be better than the 2001. Have fun trying to argue that lol. Also from pics the red doesn’t look too dark. I think that was one of the main details most are excited about. It even says true red on the box. These will be the best retro on so many levels it’s not even close based on what we’ve seen. They fixed/perfected the shape on ‘18 concords so these will be no different if not better. ‘01s while still great, we’re off on way more levels than ‘19 are. Making the ‘19 overall better. Just saying. It’s all opinion tho.
 
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Pics of my 1996's, because those 2001's just DON'T cut it.

(They never did honestly.)

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I still want a pair of the 2001's tho. For collection puposes only. I sold both of My 2012's a few months ago. One pair that was DS on StockX, and my worn pair on eBay. They were one of the most uncomfortable pairs sneakers, I've owned in my entire life.
 
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Pics of my 1996's, because those 2001's just DON'T cut it.

(They never did honestly.)

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I still want a pair of the 2001's tho. For collection puposes only. I sold both of My 2012's a few months ago. One pair that was DS on StockX, and my worn pair on eBay. They were one of the most uncomfortable pairs sneakers, I've owned in my entire life.
They never get old looking at.
 
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Pics of my 1996's, because those 2001's just DON'T cut it.

(They never did honestly.)

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I still want a pair of the 2001's tho. For collection puposes only. I sold both of My 2012's a few months ago. One pair that was DS on StockX, and my worn pair on eBay. They were one of the most uncomfortable pairs sneakers, I've owned in my entire life.
I have to agree with you on that,the 2000/2001 pair was the best besides the O.G
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Never had the 01 pair but from the feedback in here, along with their look they obviously the best so far. My only real gripe was the V red. But I would have def gotten over that. Along with the lack of white lining. I really think I have heard just one person knock on the 01 in here. Its def time to get these back all original though.
 
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JRepp23 JRepp23 . Not that you asked , you may blend or rid that spot with a gentle GENTLE and small swirls of acetone on a q-tip. A litte at a time. So if all isnt off on day one try a very small amoumt again on day two. Kind off buff it away / into the very small nearest surrounding patent.
 
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I remember not buying the '01s because they looked off to me, due to the lack of white line, untinted mesh, and the red. This was before it registered with me what really was going on with retros and that, little did I know, they would be the closest to my OGs for the next 18 years. But I still agree with the notion that this new pair will be the best since '96, no question. The only thing I wish was better is, as mentioned in another post, the thickness/quality of the patent. But that's pretty minor to me.
My only other "gripe," if anything--and this is really idiotic, I suppose--as has been said from time to time by a few, these new 11s went just a millimeter or two too high with the patent. But after so many years of that ludicrously low cut and total **** overall shape/proportion of retro 11s, I'm not actually complaining. It's more just an observation from someone who still has his OGs sitting in front of me every day on a shelf at home. Sometimes I think the '06 DMPs actually got it the most right in terms of a blend of shape, proportion, and patent height/patent curve shape around the shoe. Whatever, these are going to be great. Looking forward to it.
 
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My only gripe with these new batches of XI's are the PL. It still "fogs" up really early. I notice this when I browse the used shoes section on AIRGOAT. The shoes can be in really good condition, but the PL looks bad. I wish they would fix this, other than that. I have no issues.
 
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JRepp23 JRepp23 . Not that you asked , you may blend or rid that spot with a gentle GENTLE and small swirls of acetone on a q-tip. A litte at a time. So if all isnt off on day one try a very small amoumt again on day two. Kind off buff it away / into the very small nearest surrounding patent.
I think you meant to tell marztharealist marztharealist this. Thats his pair. Mine meanwhile have the same problem on damn near the entire right shoe of my originals. The left, nothing. But I will take this advise though and try. Thank you.
 
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