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aepps20

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My friend is Mexican, older dude in the trades. He lived down south, heard he was taking their jobs his whole time there. Moved back to Mexico.

Came back to america but this time mn and now has ptsd and has a therapist and anti anxiety meds from it but is managing one of the painting companies here at this point and doesn’t get harassed anymore.

People really think like that. I was paving with a Hmong dude and a Salvadorian and some guy walked out of his house and asked if we were out of white workers which resulted in us chasing him back in his house.
I didn't know it was you fam. I said that as a MAN that happens to be CONSERVATIVE and black.
 
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I didn't know it was you fam. I said that as a MAN that happens to be CONSERVATIVE and black.
Xenophobia exists everywhere. but it does seem sad and goes to show how ignorant people can be. there are two sides of the story. while there are some situations that it could be true that some jobs are taken by others, it isn't exactly their fault as the companies allow it to be. the other side of the story is the shortage of manpower. some people complain about jobs being taken from them eventhough those are jobs that they wouldn't even want nor take. some people are just self-entitled that they don't have to do shet to get a high-paying job nor thought of working hard to get the job.
 

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We all know how this happened

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So crazy to me, play with this **** just for views and profit because at the end of the day they'll still be rich and far away from this stuff.
 

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Xenophobia exists everywhere. but it does seem sad and goes to show how ignorant people can be. there are two sides of the story. while there are some situations that it could be true that some jobs are taken by others, it isn't exactly their fault as the companies allow it to be. the other side of the story is the shortage of manpower. some people complain about jobs being taken from them eventhough those are jobs that they wouldn't even want nor take. some people are just self-entitled that they don't have to do shet to get a high-paying job nor thought of working hard to get the job.

White people: It's unfair that these brown people are willing to work harder for less

Also white People: We should pay brown people less despite the fact that they do more
 

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He doesn’t work for less, another reason to go union if you’re in construction.

My grandfather was in the railroad union and my uncle was a master sheet metal worker. My family owes a lot to unions.

But it would not be truthful to asset that unions protected them from racially-based unfair pay and labor practices.

The unions just reflect the broader country. We have more opportunity here than elsewhere, but that doesn’t mean it’s equitable or fair.
 

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My grandfather was in the railroad union and my uncle was a master sheet metal worker. My family owes a lot to unions.

But it would not be truthful to asset that unions protected them from racially-based unfair pay and labor practices.

The unions just reflect the broader country. We have more opportunity here than elsewhere, but that doesn’t mean it’s equitable or fair.

Are there libs in said union?
 
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My grandfather was in the railroad union and my uncle was a master sheet metal worker. My family owes a lot to unions.

But it would not be truthful to asset that unions protected them from racially-based unfair pay and labor practices.

The unions just reflect the broader country. We have more opportunity here than elsewhere, but that doesn’t mean it’s equitable or fair.

Oh yeah, there’s still bad union companies. I don’t work for one of them. At least as far as racism goes.

Half the guys at my job would definitely face discrimination at some other places.
 
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Psaki thanked press office colleagues and members of the media, telling the reporters, "You have challenged me, you have pushed me, you have debated me, and at times we have disagreed. That is democracy in action. That is it working."
"Thank you for what you do," she added. "Thank you for making me better. And most importantly, thank you for the work every day you do to make this country stronger."









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About that historic California budget surplus:



You just can't reach them 🤣🤣🤣


In the late 2000's and early 2011's, the conservative argument was that California is bad because it ran deficits and now CA is bad because it churns out surpluses. It was set up, by conservative media, as a tale of a profligate, socialist State failing and Texas was held up as the foil, a thrifty, pro capitalist state that was thriving thriving. The far more boring and prosaic reality was that California mostly had deficits because it relies on a progressive State income tax and a slump in real estate prices and the cyclical industries that exist along side it, produced fewer high earners for a few years.

The funny thing about all of the discussions about States and their economic outcomes is that States do not have nearly as much control over economic outcomes that people tend to think they do.

Red States have can and do make refuse federal money for certain things, chief among them Medicaid expansion, and it makes life miserable for their most vulnerable residents. But the big top line numbers like budget surpluses/short falls, unemployment rates, inflation, are determined mostly by Federal policy and international flows of capital.

The big game changer would be if States could issue their own currency. then you'd see true "laboratories of democracy" existing, at least when it comes to economic policy. Although social policy would be indirectly affected as well. If California could print its own money, it could do massive infrastructure projects and social spending that would lead to more economic output which would offset inflation. On the social side, California could print the money it needs to help poor people in Red States relocate here and get on their feet. And their contributions to the California economy would offset inflation on this California sovereign currency. Meanwhile, red States' ideology of gold backed currency or other hard money would fail spectacularly.

This would create a feedback loop where more "refugees" from red states would enrich the California economy and keep the California fiat currency stable thus allowing California to bring in more refugees, build housing and infrastructure to accommodate them, rinse and repeat.

It could be a reality and be a reality sooner than rather than later. A second civil war is not inevitable. We could see the federal government's sovereignty and legitimacy slowly fade away but still be strong enough to prevent wars between States. In that scenario, blue State social democracies and could emerge.
 
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With all this talk about pedophilia and grooming, I am reminded of that fact that most acts of child molestation are caused by people whom the child knows. It is rarely a stranger who does it. Patriarchal societies, which hold up the family as supreme over the state are more likely to have children getting molested. Societies that see sex as conquests and a means of asserting power rather than a connection between consenting adults are more likely to have child molestation. Societies that don't teach sexual education are more likely to have child molestations that go unreported.

And things like child prostitution and human trafficking are usually the result of economic precarity, and a lack of a social safety net. During the "shock therapy" of post Soviet 1990's in Russia, child prostitutions became common place and was practiced out in the streets. In developing countries with little to no social safety net, children move to cities to work and many of them end up as prostitutes.

On the social and economic side of things, everything that conservatives want makes children more vulnerable and more likely to be sexually assaulted by adults.
 
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Does any one know of any good English language articles that break down the Filipino presidential election? I'm curious to see where Marcos got the most support.


I think this covers it well for the basics. But disclaimer: Rappler is well-known for being left-wing anti-Marcos and anti-Duterte.

Basically a ton of revisionist history, empty promises and Facebook/social media trolls. The masses ate it all up like crazy. Sound familiar?
 
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