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I doubt AOC could get 20 votes for Speaker.

Dead serious
I know. I'm just over here dreaming. But Nancy needs to step down for her own sake. When the QOP takes the House, she's going to have ****ing hell to deal with that I don't think she's up for after what happened to her husband.
 

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Being involved in this election has been one of the most frustrating and bewildering things I have ever been involved in

People really think that voting GOP might make inflation go down because of **** like " it will stop Biden's out of control spending."

Ask them to get specific and they can't

Tell them the GOP's plan to force a debt crisis to cut Medicare, Social Security to fund more tax cuts for the rich and they hate it. Completely against it

But they are voting GOP anyway and hopefully Biden compromise a solution with them.

The solution they want is the GOP gets done of their demands.

But they will still vote for them

This was in a focus group of swing voters that have voted Dem most for the last decade.

The whole room sighed when we saw that on the PowerPoint slide.
 
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Being involved in this election has been one of the most frustrating and bewildering things I have ever been involved in

People really think that voting GOP might make inflation go down because of **** like " it will stop Biden's out of control spending."

Ask them to get specific and they can't

Tell them the GOP's plan to force a debt crisis to cut Medicare, Social Security to fund more tax cuts for the rich and they hate it. Completely against it

But they are voting GOP anyway and hopefully Biden compromise a solution with them.

The solution they want is the GOP gets done of their demands.

But they will still vote for them

This was in a focus group of swing voters that have voted Dem most for the last decade.

The whole room sighed when we saw that on the PowerPoint slide.

Not shocked. Most people are low information voters. They don’t understand enough on how things works. Society fails people in educating them on economics and government in general.
 

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Not shocked. Most people are low information voters. They don’t understand enough on how things works. Society fails people in educating them on economics and government in general.

I was going through my local ballot for like judges and local nonpartisan officials and wondering what percent of people really care to inform themselves of these people. Less than 5%? Everyone prob just votes for the incumbent or a decent looking name.
 

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The crime rhetoric is even worse

If people think the Dems just supporting more police funding is gonna be a magic bullet, they need to think again

Some law enforcement groups have endorsed the Dems in NV. But the Police Unions want them out because they support prosecuting corruption and brutality

There is a video I saw of a voter saying something like..."the Dems say they are tough on crime but all Cortex Masto talks about is getting cops more resources and hiring more cops. But if cops are scared of being prosecuted then they won't want to fight the crime.

I just started laughing because I couldn't think of anything else to do
 
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Just wait until the GOP takes the house back and they install Trump as house speaker. That puts him third in line for president.
 

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Hopefully we keep waltz as gov. The rest I’m ready to just charge it to the game for the time being.
 
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Being involved in this election has been one of the most frustrating and bewildering things I have ever been involved in

People really think that voting GOP might make inflation go down because of **** like " it will stop Biden's out of control spending."

Ask them to get specific and they can't

Tell them the GOP's plan to force a debt crisis to cut Medicare, Social Security to fund more tax cuts for the rich and they hate it. Completely against it

But they are voting GOP anyway and hopefully Biden compromise a solution with them.

The solution they want is the GOP gets done of their demands.

But they will still vote for them

This was in a focus group of swing voters that have voted Dem most for the last decade.

The whole room sighed when we saw that on the PowerPoint slide.
Dems continue to lose on messaging and overestimating the intelligence of the average voter. Dems also underestimate group think. They also suffer from an outlier problem that Republicans have been able to avoid for reasons even I can't explain.
 
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Dems continue to lose on messaging and overestimating the intelligence of the average voter. Dems also underestimate group think. They also suffer from an outlier problem that Republicans have been able to avoid for reasons even I can't explain.
easy, hardline Republican voters are idiots. they can't see past party lines.
 
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general psyche of hardcore republicans.
 

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I'm watching local news stories of polling places being fully staffed with poll workers, at public locations, and open from 7 am to 830 pm and I'm thinking how when I was a kid my parents would roll up to some neighbor's garage a block away to vote :lol:

is that still a thing anywhere? can't imagine in this day and age elections officials would let a random citizen host a polling place
 

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I worked at a Spanish place, it was alpha af, lots of coke and parties, big pans of paella, braised rabbit, pulpo, blood sausage.

All alpha stuff that beta would be scared to eat.
 
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Dems continue to lose on messaging and overestimating the intelligence of the average voter. Dems also underestimate group think. They also suffer from an outlier problem that Republicans have been able to avoid for reasons even I can't explain.
I agree, but I don't think underestimating the intelligence of the voter is the right way to put it: Democrats have ignored the gutting of liberal arts education, which actually teaches critical thinking (philosophy) and the formation and evolution of human systems (history, political science, sociology). This is a huge part of the issue, and it hasn't stopped.

Notice how we are heavily promoting trade education instead of college: this is another way to deepen the dumbing down of the American citizen, as high schoolers won't even get intro classes on those topics. (I'm not saying trade school isn't important!!!!)

The other part is, people who own the corporations that make and distribute essentials are in cahoots with the people who own the means of mass communication. Voters' ears and eyes are simply out of reach.
 
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