Formerly 'red mpls'
- Joined Feb 21, 2006
Appreciate the dialogue as always fam. I will respond tomorrow.I think what people are pointing out is that even leftist policies are insufficient to achieve real economic and social justice for black people. You can claim there are better that whatever someone else is pushing, but they are still inadequate. They are only part of the solution. People want more because more will be needed to make the black community whole. More than what it will take to make poor white people whole.
To achieve that, at some point, you have to add additional policies and goals that explicitly spell out that their aim is to help specifically black people. The issue is that what guarantee will there be that new socialist coalition that pushes through colorblind universal policies, will also be on board with pushing through other programs specifically aimed at helping black Americans?
The goal is to use this class first rhetoric to attract a ton of new marginal voters into supporting the leftist agenda. Is it not?
But whenever someone points out the friction there, you circle back to how much good the leftist agenda will do for black people, how it is better than the liberal policy plan, or how pure of heart the median leftist is, without ever addressing that friction.
Secondly, when you have socialist/leftist/Marxist that have done an abysmal job at building a political movement big enough to gain power. That can't win in swing districts. That can't win where the Democratic brand is dead. That can't pry a decent amount of the left-wing coalition away from the Democratic establishment. A group of people that can't even prove their theories on coalition building. To trust and buy into a plan of a group that is disproportionately white already. Use rhetoric that is clearly designed not to trigger white people. Yet the request is made that people should just jump in, put concerns aside, treat anything outside of their narrow framing as distractions, and just trust socialist have ir right.
So yes, it does come off as some "what do you have to lose" steez.