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Can't you see that helping the GOP never have to worry about the black vote hurting them at the polls, is the perfect way to get leverage over them? :lol:

It is such an asinine premise that anyone that gave it a few seconds of thought should realize it is bull****.

Could you imagine if someone suggested that everyone at Winterfell just surrender and join the Night King's army, help him sack King's Landing, and take over Westeros; so in turn that will give the North leverage to make him pass the Second Snow Act, and increase HBCU funding so the Unsullied and Dothraki can get job retraining.

Pure idiocy from the Biscuit Knight
The leverage I mention is over the Dems, not the GOP. Perhaps if you look at it from that angle you can understand the logic.
 
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He has a poor understanding of many things, including leverage.

Somehow thinking that Black people voting for the party who wants to appoint a Justice who will allow them to finally strike down the ACA, gut what’s left of the Voting Rights Act, and likely get rid of Affirmative Action as we know it would somehow give us leverage. How would voting for a party who actively wants to suppress the vote of Black people give us leverage?
Because the party who has been able to depend on black voters, would have to do more for black voters—specifically—to maintain that support.

Let’s try a hypothetical

Perhaps I’ll use a story RustyShackleford RustyShackleford constantly brings up.

19 yo Rusty, a confessed cheater, continues To cheat on his girl. He does this, in part, because he knows she loves him and isn’t going to leave him. He can depend on her remaining with him despite his actions.

He can argue, well who are you going to leave me for? Those other guys cheat too. In fact, they are way worse than I am. You’d be an idiot if you leave.

Im saying that if she shows Rusty that he can’t depend on her to stay without a shift in his behavior, it could yield positive results for her.
 
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So I stumbled on this conversation between two black conservatives. I’ve agreed with the host on a few issues and I decided to give it a listen. It’s so weird how much common ground there is but then some of the conclusions they draw are making want to punch my self in the face. They go as far as to talk about the “uncle toms” like Candace Owens and blexit and How it’s terrible outreach. They then say that if you’re a black person running as a Republican at the local level, good luck trying to get any support from the Republican Party at any level. They would rather let demons run unopposed. But then says “they’re not racist though”:lol::lol:
It’s funny because They try to separate themselves as from the other Republicans, but they’re still sipping the partisan Koolaid to an extent because especially at the local level, in black communities, if they Ran as conservative Dems, they’d win elections and actually be able to help the people they say they want to help.
 

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2. Leverage. This is really just an extension of the first point. Think of it as two competing offers. The policy proposals, aimed at black people, get better when both parties are not confident in their ability to have the majority of the black
Support de facto Black disfranchisement to give Black voters “leverage?”

 
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Because the party who has been able to depend on black voters, would have to do more for black voters—specifically—to maintain that support.

Let’s try a hypothetical

Perhaps I’ll use a story RustyShackleford RustyShackleford constantly brings up.

19 yo Rusty, a confessed cheater, continues To cheat on his girl. He does this, in part, because he knows she loves him and isn’t going to leave him. He can depend on her remaining with him despite his actions.

He can argue, well who are you going to leave me for? Those other guys cheat too. In fact, they are way worse than I am. You’d be an idiot if you leave.

Im saying that if she shows Rusty that he can’t depend on her to stay without a shift in his behavior, it could yield positive results for her.
Yea, this hypothetical shows that you’re being purposefully obtuse or you don’t get the situation. She wouldn’t be leaving for a guy who cheats too. It would be leaving for the other guy who doesn’t think that a woman should have control of her body, is best friends with a terrible man who brags about sexually assaulting woman, won’t change any behavior to actually show that he gives a **** about you, and has told you that y’all aren’t going steady (word to Rocko) and he doesn’t want to be with you. But every once in a while, he’ll by her some new Red Bottoms just to keep her feeling like this is worth her time. Now, if she was still willing to leave considering all of those factors? Yea, she wouldn’t have any leverage. She’d be getting played and Rust would be laughing at how much of a dumb bird she is.
 
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Yea, this hypothetical shows that you’re being purposefully obtuse or you don’t get the situation. She wouldn’t be leaving for a guy who cheats too. It would be leaving for the other guy who doesn’t think that a woman should have control of her body, is best friends with a terrible man who brags about sexually assaulting woman, won’t change any behavior to actually show that he gives a **** about you, and has told you that y’all aren’t going steady (word to Rocko) and he doesn’t want to be with you. But every once in a while, he’ll by her some new Red Bottoms just to keep her feeling like this is worth her time. Now, if she was still willing to leave considering all of those factors? Yea, she wouldn’t have any leverage. She’d be getting played and Rust would be laughing at how much of a dumb bird she is.
Sounds like victim blaming
 

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This election might not tell just how many bigots there are in America.

But it will give us a definitive count of how many top-shelf, grade-a buffoons they really are. Cause if you are voting for Kanye, you a exactly that.
The man is public and open with his mental issues, getting admitted, his medicine cocktail, the ramblings, selfishness, greed and attention whoring etc. If you look at someone like that and think that's the President for me, please get yourself committed to a mental institution as well.
 
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That **** was wild to me back then, I just didn’t know why.

Straight up indoctrination from conception.
Same here. By about 4th grade I stopped saying the words. By about 9th grade I just sat in my chair with my hand over my heart stone-faced while the home room teacher gave me dirty looks. After that I would just post up at my desk with my disc man on and not even pay attention. Always thought it was ridiculous.

Like I get it. We're in a America. There's a flag in every class room. Do I really need to pledge every day like I might have to grab my musket and fight the British in year 2000 :lol:
 
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Because the party who has been able to depend on black voters, would have to do more for black voters—specifically—to maintain that support.

Let’s try a hypothetical

Perhaps I’ll use a story RustyShackleford RustyShackleford constantly brings up.

19 yo Rusty, a confessed cheater, continues To cheat on his girl. He does this, in part, because he knows she loves him and isn’t going to leave him. He can depend on her remaining with him despite his actions.

He can argue, well who are you going to leave me for? Those other guys cheat too. In fact, they are way worse than I am. You’d be an idiot if you leave.

Im saying that if she shows Rusty that he can’t depend on her to stay without a shift in his behavior, it could yield positive results for her.
The correct analogy to what you're saying is: "I'm gonna cut myself and risk death if my girl doesn't love me more"

The fact that Democrats are openly embracing racial justice is a win and it means that they are listening to their most fervent voting block. 10, 20 years ago, you wouldn't have seen that. Remember the third way Democrats?
Only one party acknowledges Black socioeconomic issues and comes up with policies aimed at correcting those issues, and it's the Democratic party.
 
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